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My story with Luna

This is a story of what I've had to live through for the past 7 months. I know it's long, but please read it. At this point @cyan and I just want the abuse to stop and to be left alone.

docs.google.com/document/d/1W2…

Update 9 months later: Luna did not stop her abuse, instead she escalated it. Part 2: vt.social/@lina/11445352530975…


For over one year I've been harassed, threatened, doxxed, misgendered and abused by Luna the Foxgirl, author of Inochi2D.

Due to her attacks and manipulation of others, I no longer feel safe contributing to Linux GPU drivers, and I will be retiring my current model.

asahilina.net/luna-abuse/


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@sounddrill Please read the doc on the first toot of the chain for the full story. It's very long...
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I've been away from the whole scene for a while due to exams, and saw a similar message on inochi's discord

What happened? Was there some kind of falling out?

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The screenshots I've seen of her Discord server are quite frankly sickening. She's trying to rile up her entire fanbase against me with lies, plus doxxing and misgendering, and spreading private details of my life and Cyan's. I'm honestly at a loss for words.
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

What about those "mildly inflammatory messages criticizing Asahi Linux, nijilive (the Inochi2D fork), and VT Social itself" messages? If they were truly made, then there should be some evidence for them? In the current state, it's a nothingburger, especially after hearing Luna's side of the story.

Also I've seen ableists trying to invalidate female autistic individuals by claiming "it's BPD, autism is a "boy's disease", and you look nothing like my low functioning second cousin".

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

i wish you a lot of strength and fortitude in this hard situation. Hopefully it will calm down going forward and you can relax again more. But dont forget that you are strong and a great person. (Im sure of that). Greetings from switzerland
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

I didn't want to see that...

But this is not surprise, the constant self-pitying and self-harm warning while \@everyone-ing on inochi2d's annoucement channel already gave BPD away.

I hope she gets the medical help she needs and that you guys can recover and move on.

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

as someone who also went through a lot of BS in the past few years due to my people not respecting my boundaries and being thankless about it later, I can… deeply resonate with parts of this document

sorry this happened to you, and hang in there! hugs

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

jfc that's awful 😕 you're a deeply knowledgeable and passionate person, and a gracious host. i guess through a lens of extreme insecurity that might seem overwhelming or intimidating, but that's just not at all a fair characterization. when we chanced to meet you went out of your way to be inclusive and entertaining, help me find gifts and food at weird hours, find my way home safely, and i still cherish those memories

i do hope you get some space to breathe and heal

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

Analysis of the document, behaviour and conclusion I reached (hot take warning)

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Analysis of the document, behaviour and conclusion I reached (hot take warning)

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in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

Aw, this is unfortunate and awful you had to get through this, hope Luna will get some help, and that these events will be behind you

Personally, I was hoping to make a visual novel using Inochi2D to make character posing a bit easier, more automated, and hopefully more dynamic, and I knew integration with Ren'Py was a goal once the major rewrite was done, so I grew disheartened over time with development stalling with Luna's health as everyone else was waiting after that rewrite, so it's nice to see there's other people working on a fork

Do you know if integration with Ren'Py still a goal with the fork? In any case I'll definitely check this out :)

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

@Yuki Honestly part of the issue with Inochi2D is just that... Luna is kind of hostile to contributors and doesn't allow them any agency. She wants to maintain full control but she doesn't have the bandwidth herself to really push it forward. So things stall... I'd sort of given up on it really taking off a while back due to this, but I didn't expect things to get so bad that someone else would fork.
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

Yeah, definitely, if I remember seagetch was a contributor towards the end, at least for the 0.8 branch while Luna was working on a 0.9, but you could feel he still had his hands tied, so I kind of understand him forking it will give him more leeway into pushing this forward

Also Ren'Py Tom seemed really interested working on this on the Ren'Py side but there was depedencies which made it hard to integrate until the rewrite was done, and of course, that was for Luna to figure it out

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@Yuki TBH I think the rewrite is a red herring. The whole idea of Inochi2D was always that it was supposed to be a reference implementation, not *the* canonical implementation. There is already an Inox2D Rust rewrite that is much more suitable for embedding into other projects, and Rust is already more likely to be familiar with people for building in dependencies. But Luna decided to stick with D for everything somehow at some point, and now she's trying to refactor the whole reference D implementation into something that everyone will share and... I just don't think it's going to work.
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

Wha, had absolutely no idea all this was happening. Soru woshed the best to you & cyan, and hopes you'll have somepeaceful, quiet days soon 💚

For Luna, soru hopes you can find professional help and get better! 💚

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

As an autistic critter I can also confirm that was not a meltdown. It may be autistic burnout mixed with something else. I don't think autism alone can really explain it.

I wish you two all the best, I hope you can leave all that behind.

I also wish her to find the help she needs. You all deserve to heal in peace, I hope she will understand that. :blobfoxheart:

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

why do queer spaces have to generate so much trauma all the time…? I really hope luna moves on and improves, for her own sake, and everyone else’s who was involved. :blobcat_huggies_sad: hugs from austria. Things will get better, never lose hope.
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

We don't know each other but I followed you for a while now to see the updates of your work on Asahi Linux.
I didn't know you and your girlfriend had to go through that. I'm very sorry for both of you and hope you can both heal and find your peace again. Hang in there! :)
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

First of all, I want to thank you for all that you did to attemt to help her. I hope that you can now move on and not have this hanging over your heads all the time.
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

so sorry you had to go through this. I probably can’t say anything you haven’t heard by now, but I wish all the best for both of you
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

this post is in dire need of a content warning! i read through the entire document and i am fine, but add something like
cw: mental health, boundaries, borderline, suicidal
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

I tend not to involve myself in the business of others like this so had no idea of what was going on. I read as much as I could of your story, and I’m left shocked. I can only wish you both the best and I hope you can return to a quieter life without all of this. Take care of yourselves.
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

After reading this entire document all I can say is you two are incredibly caring and amazing friends/people. Being able to deal with this for this long must have been very taxing on your mental. I know very few people who would have been able to deal with this situation for this long without saying a word publicly or firing back at all. I hope the best for you two and I hope Luna is able to get the help she needs.
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

I'm sorry that you had to deal with this

Wishing the best to both of you, and hope Luna can get the medical help that she needs

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

You know shit is serious when comfy tech vtubers have to drop 27 pages document on somebody.
Anyway enough silly joke, wish you two the best and to put this behind and heal.
in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

Thanks for sharing. Sorry you all went thru this. Honestly this to me sounds more like borderline personality disorder, but I am not an expert.

I hope everyone gets the time and/or help they need.

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

I am so sorry you had to go through all this.

I hope she manages to give herself boundaries to leave you alone and let herself some space to heal.

The least we can say is you were great friends and were as supportive as you could! Be proud!

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

As someone who has had to deal with a similar person relatively recently, I feel your pain. It is hard to let go and to disengage. I just want to say: Luna's situation is not your fault, you did what you could.

I sincerely hope that you get the peace you deserve.

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

I read through the entire doc and geez that was a lot to take in. First off… sorry for the wall of the text lol

As I read the doc, some of the things I saw Luna post about made a lot more sense now that there was more context put into it all. Honestly all of her doomposting drove me to unfollow her ages ago because I already have my own personal issues to deal with and I didn’t want to keep seeing that. I had even wanted to try Inochi2D at some point, but she essentially drove me away from it with those posts and I stuck with 3D instead. I sincerely hope she is able to get the help she needs in the end.

That said, I’m so sorry you both had to go through this, let alone the uninvolved 3rd parties that got dragged in for various reasons.

I’ve seen and experienced manipulative people before (albeit not to this extent) and I know it can take time to fully recover from it all. I may not interact with either of you very much but I have looked up to you both for quite some time. Coming across your content a few years ago is part of what got me deeper into using open source projects in general. I wish nothing but the best for both of you and I hope you can all move forward from this whole mess in due time.

in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

vt.social/@lina/11289271629054…


Thank you everyone for the kind responses to yesterday's events. We received dozens of support messages and it really warmed our hearts.

I wrote a brief note with some lessons learned (only one page, I promise!):

docs.google.com/document/d/1b9…


in reply to Asahi Lina (朝日リナ) // nullptr::live

Hi,

I'm a total outsider here, and am frankly *amazed* Lina could manage such technological feats while all this drama was going on.

There are people who are black holes, who will sap your time, energy and resources with no gratitude and then stab you in the back at a moment's notice. Cut all contact with these people. They seek kind others to force responsibility on.

I wish you two the best, don't look back!

Regards,
Ben